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An "Introduction" of sorts... which relies primarily on Plath (well... mostly) to say what I intend to express here (she is, it seems, always my most reliable source):

Sylvia Plath once wrote an brief introduction to eight of her poems that were to be included in a BBC broadcast. Of Sheep In Fog she offered only "In this next poem, the speaker's horse is proceeding at a slow, cold walk down a hill of macadam to the stable at the bottom. It is December. It is foggy. In the fog there are sheep." The "speaker" is Sylvia. The piece, a late work written very shortly before her suicide, is telling. Her introduction is... misleading.

I have spent the last long while pondering poets and painters and the like. There was Sylvia, as there is always... and Rilke and Pessoa... Cezanne and Van Gogh... and more. And there was, of course, their art. Art... which through the years, has given me so very, very much. These gifts, it occured to me, can be received - but never taken. Artists are a curious bunch, I think. They have so incredibly much to offer... but they do so in a way... well... that perhaps only an artist can understand. Sylvia, so often labeled a "confessional poet" put, I think [and this whole thing is really is just me thinking 'out loud', so to speak], the entirity of herself in her work. However, when asked, (like so so many artists) she stopped short of saying as much. Sheep In Fog exists then as a poem about a horse and sheep and fog and whatnot... or.... something so very more - based entirely on what the individual reader discovers it to be. What it really was, only Sylvia could know and ironically, she was probably the last one a reader (or any interested party) should have been asking - perhaps because she didn't want to tell us, perhaps because she couldn't tell us or perhaps... because she herself didn't know. It almost doesn't matter which it was. What matters... at least to me... is that it is fully there - on the page, trapped as it existed in the moment it was written. Each reader will take from it whatever they individually are given (as they read and/or as time rolls forward). Some may misinterpret, some may not care, some may find in it only what they come expecting to find, some may forget or be unwilling/not yet ready to accept what was offered... and some will discover the truth of it. That... to me... is art.

With a whispered 'thank you' to Sylvia,
~Snemmy
(who did, for the record, try to stop herself from rambling
-but so absolutely couldn't do so entirely given the subject matter)



~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~


The Art of Discovery


Draw from it what you will
But do not break it all apart
You must move back a step or two
To find the beauty of the art

You’re cleaving
To deceiving
Interpretations now
You will not find the answer
If the truth you won’t allow

A painting’s more than colored canvas
A poem, more than written words
If you’ve dared to ask what it might mean
Forget now what you heard.

Such inspection
This dissection
Is of little gain
You’ll never find the reason
For you’ve overlooked the same

So draw from it what you will
Let the mystery unveil itself in time
You will not see it in the brushstrokes
Nor find it set out in the rhyme
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The Art of Discovery

Contributed by Silent-No-More on Sunday, 4th December 2005 @ 12:15:04 AM in AEST
Topic: poets




An "Introduction" of sorts... which relies primarily on Plath (well... mostly) to say what I intend to express here (she is, it seems, always my most reliable source):

Sylvia Plath once wrote an brief introduction to eight of her poems that were to be included in a BBC broadcast. Of Sheep In Fog she offered only "In this next poem, the speaker's horse is proceeding at a slow, cold walk down a hill of macadam to the stable at the bottom. It is December. It is foggy. In the fog there are sheep." The "speaker" is Sylvia. The piece, a late work written very shortly before her suicide, is telling. Her introduction is... misleading.

I have spent the last long while pondering poets and painters and the like. There was Sylvia, as there is always... and Rilke and Pessoa... Cezanne and Van Gogh... and more. And there was, of course, their art. Art... which through the years, has given me so very, very much. These gifts, it occured to me, can be received - but never taken. Artists are a curious bunch, I think. They have so incredibly much to offer... but they do so in a way... well... that perhaps only an artist can understand. Sylvia, so often labeled a "confessional poet" put, I think [and this whole thing is really is just me thinking 'out loud', so to speak], the entirity of herself in her work. However, when asked, (like so so many artists) she stopped short of saying as much. Sheep In Fog exists then as a poem about a horse and sheep and fog and whatnot... or.... something so very more - based entirely on what the individual reader discovers it to be. What it really was, only Sylvia could know and ironically, she was probably the last one a reader (or any interested party) should have been asking - perhaps because she didn't want to tell us, perhaps because she couldn't tell us or perhaps... because she herself didn't know. It almost doesn't matter which it was. What matters... at least to me... is that it is fully there - on the page, trapped as it existed in the moment it was written. Each reader will take from it whatever they individually are given (as they read and/or as time rolls forward). Some may misinterpret, some may not care, some may find in it only what they come expecting to find, some may forget or be unwilling/not yet ready to accept what was offered... and some will discover the truth of it. That... to me... is art.

With a whispered 'thank you' to Sylvia,
~Snemmy
(who did, for the record, try to stop herself from rambling
-but so absolutely couldn't do so entirely given the subject matter)



~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~


The Art of Discovery


Draw from it what you will
But do not break it all apart
You must move back a step or two
To find the beauty of the art

You’re cleaving
To deceiving
Interpretations now
You will not find the answer
If the truth you won’t allow

A painting’s more than colored canvas
A poem, more than written words
If you’ve dared to ask what it might mean
Forget now what you heard.

Such inspection
This dissection
Is of little gain
You’ll never find the reason
For you’ve overlooked the same

So draw from it what you will
Let the mystery unveil itself in time
You will not see it in the brushstrokes
Nor find it set out in the rhyme




Copyright © Silent-No-More ... [ 2005-12-04 00:15:04]
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Re: The Art of Discovery (User Rating: 1 )
by SocialMisfit on Sunday, 4th December 2005 @ 02:18:24 AM AEST
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very very inspiering, nice write.

SM


Re: The Art of Discovery (User Rating: 1 )
by Silent-No-More on Sunday, 4th December 2005 @ 02:53:41 AM AEST
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(Commenting on my own post.... wierd)

Ah.... I do understand what you're saying, Jarred --- I absolutly do. And I love that this drew a second comment from you. : )

Ah but... (how do I say this)... (*struggles to resolve something*).... Ok... um...

Oh heavens! I guess I'll just say that I'm entirely comfortable with everything that's on the page here. It was, perhaps, the remainder of the could-of-been-twenty-page intro that I felt perhaps didn't 'belong' (though it did... but.... yeh).

"Draw from it what you will"... still applies, methinks.


~Snemmy
(heading for PM actually - having determined that to be the aforementioned sought after resolution)



Re: The Art of Discovery (User Rating: 1 )
by Xnoybis on Sunday, 4th December 2005 @ 03:22:30 AM AEST
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I liked the intro myself. Says at least as much as the poem to me. It offered a personal example of what the author was refering to.

I may be a bit biased, though. Pessoa is a poetic monster in my opinion. Certainly a vein pumping from the heart of the beast. Sylvia Plath, too..strikes a deep chord in me as heavy, though I can't remember now, for the life of me, why. The intro gives me a small rekindling at least.

The poem itself I liked..the sentiment, definitely on top of its base. Although, it does seem to me..that one can only unravel the mystery over time if they inspect and dissect. The poem seems to dissuade a technical approach, which I agree with..but those are conscious to me. The unconscious seems to do the same, in a non-technical manner..and I think that's where it is at.


Re: The Art of Discovery (User Rating: 1 )
by Silent-No-More on Sunday, 4th December 2005 @ 03:48:43 AM AEST
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(oh! I just can't help myself now!!!!!)

I am sooooo glad I posted this now! I almost didn't... for having nearly succumbed to a bit of overthinking. AND - I so love the discussion/comments that have come!

And Xnoybis --- yes! thank you! That last paragraph is rather what I meant to say. By "dissection" and "inspection" I was referring, at least in part, to the technical poking and prodding of a poem. I, too, prefer the less concious (or even, unconcious) experiencing of it as well.

~Snemmy
(who was further delighted to discover another that knows of Pessoa!)





Re: The Art of Discovery (User Rating: 1 )
by Xnoybis on Sunday, 4th December 2005 @ 05:00:51 AM AEST
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I'm glad you posted it too. Insightful conversation laid out over an interesting subject. It doesn't get much better than that.

I was equally enthralled to see a fellow fan of Pessoa! He's the Heavy Metal of the poetic stratosphere. *grins*


Re: The Art of Discovery (User Rating: 1 )
by Former_Member on Sunday, 4th December 2005 @ 06:27:09 AM AEST
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I love your rambling. I love your poem. I've taken a step back...or two and see a work of art.

Beautiful.

Thank you,

Tim
:-)


Re: The Art of Discovery (User Rating: 1 )
by Rakerman1999 on Sunday, 4th December 2005 @ 07:43:20 AM AEST
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ya know..lol... I would have understood this write without the introduction ( smiles). I could say much more, but I wont I'll just tell you well done poet, for only a true poet could have put this into ink.

Roses at your feet for this one
Larry




Re: The Art of Discovery (User Rating: 1 )
by secretwind on Sunday, 4th December 2005 @ 01:31:26 PM AEST
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I like this flow
well done


Re: The Art of Discovery (User Rating: 1 )
by enigma on Sunday, 4th December 2005 @ 03:57:03 PM AEST
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...enjoyed your rambling almost as much as the poem...it seems, art of a lasting nature, of an eternal resilience, demands the artist be essentially confident in their perceptions and in possession of a driving hunger to discover and express essential Beauty...that some people are deaf, speak foreign languages or have no use for Beauty is of no concern...

...it is a lesson that has yet to seep deep into my creative muscle...I presently put far too much emphasis on communicating Beauty as oppose to expressing Beauty...

...thanks for the challenge...

ron...enigma


Re: The Art of Discovery (User Rating: 1 )
by Fionndruinne on Tuesday, 6th December 2005 @ 05:03:45 PM AEST
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*grins wholeheartedly at the most excellent and oh-so-characteristic rambles both above and below the poem*

But, Ah! The poem! This is truly lovely work! I think the language really is exceptional. It snatched at me from the first stanza, and carried its strength through to the close admirably. A table-thumper, this one. *smiles*

Much enjoyed, wholly agreed, and I enjoyed the introduction (and the wee discussion that has developed) very much. Bravo!

Andrew


Re: The Art of Discovery (User Rating: 1 )
by sararose1950 on Monday, 12th December 2005 @ 08:13:12 AM AEST
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I loved this- so much beauty and truth in it-see beyond the surface- feel beauty- so glad I found this one to read. Is one to be read and reread- hopefully by generations-timeless indeed.
Peace and Light


Re: The Art of Discovery (User Rating: 1 )
by boobiepeach on Monday, 12th December 2005 @ 05:00:40 PM AEST
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the ode to the artist not noticed. very nice
a beautiful write
very glad i read.

peach


Re: The Art of Discovery (User Rating: 1 )
by Jenni_K on Sunday, 23rd April 2006 @ 12:54:54 PM AEST
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Not having read the introduction, all I will say is this is a masterpiece in its own right.....
'Nuff said...

Jenni


Re: The Art of Discovery (User Rating: 1 )
by Spike on Friday, 30th June 2006 @ 05:53:24 AM AEST
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Amen, sister, amen.

Spike




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