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Iraq torture 'worse after Saddam'
Thursday, 21 September 2006

Torture may be worse now in Iraq than under former leader Saddam Hussein, the UN's chief anti-torture expert says.

Manfred Nowak said the situation in Iraq was 'out of control', with abuses being committed by security forces, militia groups and anti-US insurgents.

Bodies found in the Baghdad morgue 'often bear signs of severe torture', said the human rights office of the UN Assistance Mission in Iraq in a report.

The wounds confirmed reports given by refugees from Iraq, Mr Nowak said.

'What most people tell you is that the situation as far as torture is concerned now in Iraq is totally out of hand,' the Austrian law professor said.

'The situation is so bad many people say it is worse than it has been in the times of Saddam Hussein,' he added.

The UN report says detainees' bodies often show signs of beating using electrical cables, wounds in heads and genitals, broken legs and hands, electric and cigarette burns.

Bodies found at the Baghdad mortuary 'often bear signs of severe torture including acid-induced injuries and burns caused by chemical substances'.

Many bodies have missing skin, broken bones, back, hands and legs, missing eyes, missing teeth and wounds caused by power drills or nails, the UN report says.

Victims come from prisons run by US-led multinational forces as well as by the ministries of interior and defence and private militias, the report said.


O//

Is this what we brought?
Is this what we wrought?
Torture worse now than under Saddam?
Is this why we fought?

Is this why they died?
Why Iraqi children fried?
Torture worse now than under Saddam?
Why US troops died?

It’s out of control
With no end goal

Beating with cables
Head wounds
Genital wounds
Broken legs and hands
Electric and cigarette burns
Acid burns
Missing skin
Broken bones
Eyes gouged out
Missing teeth
Power drill wounds
Nail wounds

Is this what we brought?
Is this what we wrought?
Torture worse now than under Saddam?
Is this why we fought?

Is this why they died?
Why Iraqi children fried?
Torture worse now than under Saddam?
Why US troops died?

It’s out of control
With no end goal


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IS THIS WHAT WE BROUGHT?

Contributed by steeleyes on Thursday, 21st September 2006 @ 06:29:42 PM in AEST
Topic: war





Iraq torture 'worse after Saddam'
Thursday, 21 September 2006

Torture may be worse now in Iraq than under former leader Saddam Hussein, the UN's chief anti-torture expert says.

Manfred Nowak said the situation in Iraq was 'out of control', with abuses being committed by security forces, militia groups and anti-US insurgents.

Bodies found in the Baghdad morgue 'often bear signs of severe torture', said the human rights office of the UN Assistance Mission in Iraq in a report.

The wounds confirmed reports given by refugees from Iraq, Mr Nowak said.

'What most people tell you is that the situation as far as torture is concerned now in Iraq is totally out of hand,' the Austrian law professor said.

'The situation is so bad many people say it is worse than it has been in the times of Saddam Hussein,' he added.

The UN report says detainees' bodies often show signs of beating using electrical cables, wounds in heads and genitals, broken legs and hands, electric and cigarette burns.

Bodies found at the Baghdad mortuary 'often bear signs of severe torture including acid-induced injuries and burns caused by chemical substances'.

Many bodies have missing skin, broken bones, back, hands and legs, missing eyes, missing teeth and wounds caused by power drills or nails, the UN report says.

Victims come from prisons run by US-led multinational forces as well as by the ministries of interior and defence and private militias, the report said.


O//

Is this what we brought?
Is this what we wrought?
Torture worse now than under Saddam?
Is this why we fought?

Is this why they died?
Why Iraqi children fried?
Torture worse now than under Saddam?
Why US troops died?

It’s out of control
With no end goal

Beating with cables
Head wounds
Genital wounds
Broken legs and hands
Electric and cigarette burns
Acid burns
Missing skin
Broken bones
Eyes gouged out
Missing teeth
Power drill wounds
Nail wounds

Is this what we brought?
Is this what we wrought?
Torture worse now than under Saddam?
Is this why we fought?

Is this why they died?
Why Iraqi children fried?
Torture worse now than under Saddam?
Why US troops died?

It’s out of control
With no end goal






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Re: IS THIS WHAT WE BROUGHT? (User Rating: 1 )
by LonelyPoet on Thursday, 21st September 2006 @ 06:33:54 PM AEST
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this breaks my heart..some people dont want to deal with the ugliness of war. well said


Re: IS THIS WHAT WE BROUGHT? (User Rating: 1 )
by twbanter on Thursday, 21st September 2006 @ 07:53:03 PM AEST
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This is shear horror, but what over there isin't? I have a hard time believing it's Americans doing this. I am sorry.... But I haven't seen any one over here, electricuted, or had thier hands cut off, or eyes poked out. Leggs broken, or any such other torture...
And those things were happenning LONG before we got there. And if they're still happenning, I don't believe it's the Americans doing it. Though some of us are whacked too...

Tom W


Re: IS THIS WHAT WE BROUGHT? (User Rating: 1 )
by deadheadpoet on Thursday, 21st September 2006 @ 07:54:05 PM AEST
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Oh geez this stuff literally makes me ill. Why do we still glorify war? You bring to light what others would chose to leave in the dark. Damn good write.
Peace, Laura


Re: IS THIS WHAT WE BROUGHT? (User Rating: 1 )
by Leslie on Thursday, 21st September 2006 @ 10:10:44 PM AEST
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So, Saddam should have stayed in power. Or AlQueda is blameless. Or home grown civil war, murder and mayhem between religious sects is normal. It is always only the United States that is at fault. War is truly ugly.




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