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Array ( [sid] => 48871 [catid] => 1 [aid] => mick [title] => Diamonds for Me [time] => 2004-05-24 04:56:47 [hometext] => * * * [bodytext] => When dark passion wove
A web of ignorance about
Me then a woman seemed
To fill the world’s expanse
But now that I am favored
With keener discernment
My tranquil sight sees one
Consciousness through out
The universe…
* * *
Don’t scorn the men who
Have won supreme truth,
Worthless as straw to them
Wealth, it offers no temptation
Elephants with streaks of rut
Straining their temples are not
Restrained by the filaments
Of lotus stalks…
* * *
Kindness is an ornament
For power, restrained speech
For valor, dispassion for wisdom,
Discipline for tranquility,
Munificence for wealth,
Forbearance for austerity,
Candor for duty, but
Moral conduct the cause of all
Is a gem that crowns the rest.
* * *
The sun brings pools of lotuses
To bloom, the moon illuminates
Nocturnal lilies, a cloud rains
Its water and a noble man struggles
For other men’s good
* * *
(Source: Bhartrihari, a Sanskrit poet)


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Diamonds for Me

Contributed by venkat on Monday, 24th May 2004 @ 04:56:47 AM in AEST
Topic: Lifepoems



When dark passion wove
A web of ignorance about
Me then a woman seemed
To fill the world’s expanse
But now that I am favored
With keener discernment
My tranquil sight sees one
Consciousness through out
The universe…
* * *
Don’t scorn the men who
Have won supreme truth,
Worthless as straw to them
Wealth, it offers no temptation
Elephants with streaks of rut
Straining their temples are not
Restrained by the filaments
Of lotus stalks…
* * *
Kindness is an ornament
For power, restrained speech
For valor, dispassion for wisdom,
Discipline for tranquility,
Munificence for wealth,
Forbearance for austerity,
Candor for duty, but
Moral conduct the cause of all
Is a gem that crowns the rest.
* * *
The sun brings pools of lotuses
To bloom, the moon illuminates
Nocturnal lilies, a cloud rains
Its water and a noble man struggles
For other men’s good
* * *
(Source: Bhartrihari, a Sanskrit poet)






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Re: Diamonds for Me (User Rating: 1 )
by venkat on Monday, 24th May 2004 @ 05:10:25 AM AEST
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Sorry.for typo..."struggle" may be read as "struggles".venkat


Re: Diamonds for Me (User Rating: 1 )
by bernard on Monday, 24th May 2004 @ 05:12:41 AM AEST
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Diamonds indeed for you my friend for posting this wonderful poem to the list.

Bernard.


Re: Diamonds for Me (User Rating: 1 )
by Jackee_line on Monday, 24th May 2004 @ 05:15:57 AM AEST
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absolutely one of your best, a beautiful poem full of wisdom.
Thankyou for sharing.


Re: Diamonds for Me (User Rating: 1 )
by JT on Monday, 24th May 2004 @ 05:20:31 AM AEST
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Very insightful write


Re: Diamonds for Me (User Rating: 1 )
by Ilhar on Monday, 24th May 2004 @ 06:53:07 AM AEST
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true wisdom
Shari


Re: Diamonds for Me (User Rating: 1 )
by DreamWeaver on Monday, 24th May 2004 @ 09:37:15 AM AEST
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Wise words venkat ... written with flair. A timeless piece.. Jan


Re: Diamonds for Me (User Rating: 1 )
by mountainhigh on Monday, 24th May 2004 @ 10:14:55 AM AEST
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Yes you are the diamond, and of course, so right.

Thank you for this beautiful insight.

Chris


Re: Diamonds for Me (User Rating: 1 )
by lostinmyself on Monday, 24th May 2004 @ 10:17:01 AM AEST
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great write, beautiful and full of wisdom.

*hugs* phil xxx


Re: Diamonds for Me (User Rating: 1 )
by ladyfawn on Monday, 24th May 2004 @ 11:24:50 AM AEST
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oh, dear venkat, this is a lovely poem filled with truth and written sooo beautifully, i really love this one! huggies n' love nessa

@->>->:-


Re: Diamonds for Me (User Rating: 1 )
by arden on Monday, 24th May 2004 @ 09:12:27 PM AEST
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so full of wise truth and wisdom. this was simply amazing.
truly one of your best.
well done dear friend.
Arden


Re: Diamonds for Me (User Rating: 1 )
by Jenni_K on Wednesday, 26th May 2004 @ 05:14:31 AM AEST
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Ingenious!!!
Jenni


Re: Diamonds for Me (User Rating: 1 )
by Avarice_Riot on Sunday, 30th May 2004 @ 02:44:11 AM AEST
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Very sage-like, I thoroughly enjoyed reading this one. The title was very apt too.


Re: Diamonds for Me (User Rating: 1 )
by TheWordChirugeon on Monday, 31st May 2004 @ 07:05:47 AM AEST
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Weirdly written poem with many problems.


- A rut is a furrow in the ground created by passing vehicles. How does an elephant get a "streak of rut?"
- Candor means the same thing as sincerity and openess. It doesn't have a thing to do with duty.
- How is restrained speech a substitute for power?
- How does valor replace apathy for wisdom?
- What does discipline and tranquility have to do with one another?


Unless this poem was translated from Sanskrit (which it might be), it looks pretty rough and full of irrelevant comparisons. If the poem was translated, the translator must have screwed up. Badly.


Re: Diamonds for Me (User Rating: 1 )
by thumper on Monday, 31st May 2004 @ 11:53:09 PM AEST
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This is to TheWordChirugeon
Rut-the periodic sexual excitement, or heat, of certain mammals: applied especally to males, often specifically to those male ruminants in which it occurs once a year.
Candor- the quality of being fair and unprejuidced; inpartiality.
The 2 comments about restrained speech and valor will have to be tackled by someone else.
As far as discipline and tranquility, even a child craves discipline. Because, with discipline,comes routine and security. And doesn't a state fo tranquility happen when everything is routine and all is right with the world. Copasetic, as it were?
It states at the end of the poem: Source: Bhartrihari, A Sanskrit Poet.
You might want to re-read the second stanza
Don't scorn the men who
Have won supreme truth
Source of definations: Webster's New World College Dictionary
Kudos to you, our venerated Venkat. We love ya!
Thumps ; 0 )


Re: Diamonds for Me (User Rating: 1 )
by TheWordChirugeon on Tuesday, 1st June 2004 @ 07:09:53 AM AEST
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Wealth offers no more temptation than a lotus stalk restrains a horny elephant?

I don't see how that analogy is any better.


Re: Diamonds for Me (User Rating: 1 )
by venkat on Wednesday, 2nd June 2004 @ 12:53:16 AM AEST
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TheWordChirugeon,
I don't feel any need to give explantion since
I am faithful to the original Sanskrit poem...
you can stop your comments.
venkat


Re: Diamonds for Me (User Rating: 1 )
by bobotheclown on Wednesday, 2nd June 2004 @ 11:43:51 AM AEST
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good poem Venkat don't pay heed to chirugeon he doesn't know how to give positive comments.

Bobo (Joel)


Re: Diamonds for Me (User Rating: 1 )
by Black13 on Friday, 4th June 2004 @ 09:42:55 AM AEST
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Beautiful write.
Ignore that fool.
He doesn't like any poetry and I'm about to turn him in.
He doesn't know good poetry when it's kicking the ever loving cr*p out of him.
Awesome sir venkat.


Re: Diamonds for Me (User Rating: 1 )
by blueheart on Sunday, 6th June 2004 @ 05:49:51 AM AEST
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Wow venkat, I am in awe right now.
The depth in the poem and the wisdom just struck me with its magnificence.
Wonderful poem.


Re: Diamonds for Me (User Rating: 1 )
by Baronhawk on Thursday, 17th June 2004 @ 07:53:35 AM AEST
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Diamonds indeed.... moral conduct if indeed men would value it such as a jewel. But sadly men would most often favor their own good and dessert nobility and morallity. What lonely jewels would a diamond be of moral conduct and noble deed... but a fleck that doth try to affect this diadem of the reality of life. But anyway... an apt depiction of the shining jewel that doth belabors the efforts of noble men as you said it here struggling for other men's good. If only life would flow as beautifully as your poetry then maybe the crown of life will indeed be adorned by such diamonds in spectacular hue!


Re: Diamonds for Me (User Rating: 1 )
by Archie on Friday, 30th September 2005 @ 05:39:59 PM AEST
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This is indeed one of your best poems. You speak with a lot of wisdom.




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